The problem I have is the 250W GPUs. The fans that come with them (and I'm not going to go to the bother of replacing those!) allow the GPU to get 50C hotter than the air it's inhaling. So even with it outside the case, a room at 25C makes the GPU 75C. I like to keep things at 70C max, even though by default the cooling settings seem to aim for 80C. 85C often causes crashes, so is presumably harming the chip. I've got all my GPUs and CPUs set to run the fan from 0 revs at 37C to 100% revs at 70C, then Tthrottle reduces boinc when it hits 75C.

I've never actually had to use a special CPU fan, those don't overheat. Stock fans work fine - if they didn't then Intel wouldn't be doing their job properly.

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I've never actually had to use a special CPU fan, those don't overheat. Stock fans work fine - if they didn't then Intel wouldn't be doing their job properly.

When running the optimised CPU application at Seti, it required after market CPU coolers to keep the CPU temperatures below 80°c. The stock Intel coolers just aren't up to it under sustained heavy loads in high ambient temperatures (even in low ambient temperatures a lot of CPUs using stock Intel coolers will end up being throttled thermally when under a very heavy computation loads). Even a mid-range aftermarket air cooler was good enough to keep the temperatures around 70°c (even it it was running flat out to do so).
The stock Intel coolers can best be described as "adequate in most cases."

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Grant
Darwin NT

When running the optimised CPU application at Seti, it required after market CPU coolers to keep the CPU temperatures below 80°c. The stock Intel coolers just aren't up to it under sustained heavy loads in high ambient temperatures (even in low ambient temperatures a lot of CPUs using stock Intel coolers will end up being throttled thermally when under a very heavy computation loads). Even a mid-range aftermarket air cooler was good enough to keep the temperatures around 70°c (even it it was running flat out to do so).
The stock Intel coolers can best be described as "adequate in most cases."

Strange, as I've used my CPU for all sorts of intensive things, although ambient here never goes over 25C. But I always have a problem with GPUs. I once bought a brand new Nvidia card which melted (with a very bad smell) the first time I used it. Put me off Nvidea forever that did. It should have had a thermal throttle or cutout.

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Strange, as I've used my CPU for all sorts of intensive things,

Depends how heavily optimised the code is.
With Seti, the Stock application pegged the CPU with the stock cooler at 70°c. The optimised AVX application had it hitting 85°c.

But I always have a problem with GPUs.

I've never used a stock or reference cooler. I've always used ones with 3 fans (2 fans for a couple of lower end cards). Like with a car working hard in tough conditions- your want the biggest radiator & air flow you can get.

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Grant
Darwin NT

When running the optimised CPU application at Seti, it required after market CPU coolers to keep the CPU temperatures below 80°c. The stock Intel coolers just aren't up to it under sustained heavy loads in high ambient temperatures (even in low ambient temperatures a lot of CPUs using stock Intel coolers will end up being throttled thermally when under a very heavy computation loads). Even a mid-range aftermarket air cooler was good enough to keep the temperatures around 70°c (even it it was running flat out to do so).
The stock Intel coolers can best be described as "adequate in most cases."

Strange, as I've used my CPU for all sorts of intensive things, although ambient here never goes over 25C. But I always have a problem with GPUs. I once bought a brand new Nvidia card which melted (with a very bad smell) the first time I used it. Put me off Nvidea forever that did. It should have had a thermal throttle or cutout.

My outside temp right now is 31.5C and it's cooling down outside since it's almost 5pm, that's in the shade while in the sun it was 42.7C earlier today. My computer room is cooled to 27.7C so the mini-splits are working hard today, and my gpu's aren't even crunching right now.

I still cannot attach Ralph@Home on my phone (Boinc 7.4.53 on Android 10).
Waiting for a new version...

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I've never used a stock or reference cooler. I've always used ones with 3 fans (2 fans for a couple of lower end cards). Like with a car working hard in tough conditions- your want the biggest radiator & air flow you can get.

I have a Gigabyte R9 280X with 3 fans. It isn't enough.

As for cars, I'll agree if it's a Renault - I melted my last one due to a tiny little air bubble in the cooling system. Apparently a lot of Renaults do that, no other car gets airlocks.

My outside temp right now is 31.5C and it's cooling down outside since it's almost 5pm, that's in the shade while in the sun it was 42.7C earlier today. My computer room is cooled to 27.7C so the mini-splits are working hard today, and my gpu's aren't even crunching right now.

The hottest I've seen outside here is 27C in the shade. The computer room just has two wide open windows, one at each end so it gets a through draught, so it never goes much over that. My GPUs always crunch unless something has failed. I've replaced about 5 fans in the last month! The rest of my house is cooled with a heat pump which I use for heating and cooling. I limit the house to 25C max.

I still cannot attach Ralph@Home on my phone (Boinc 7.4.53 on Android 10).
Waiting for a new version...

I've never seen Ralph appear on the list of projects to add to my phones (Android 4.5 and 7). But then I've only had them 6 months.

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I have a Gigabyte R9 280X with 3 fans. It isn't enough.

With that series, yeah.
They weren't exactly known for their efficiency, even when they were first released.

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Grant
Darwin NT

I have a Gigabyte R9 280X with 3 fans. It isn't enough.

With that series, yeah.
They weren't exactly known for their efficiency, even when they were first released.

Almost every card I've had has been 250W TDP.

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I still cannot attach Ralph@Home on my phone (Boinc 7.4.53 on Android 10).
Waiting for a new version...

I've never seen Ralph appear on the list of projects to add to my phones (Android 4.5 and 7). But then I've only had them 6 months.

Several Projects don't show up on the list of Projects in the Boinc Manager, some have been around a long time while others are fairly new, here's a short list and you can add each one manually if you want to run them:

[url]WUProp wuprop.boinc-af.org[/url]

[url]Yafu myfirewall.org/yafu/[/url]

[url]TN-Grid gene.disi.unitn.it/test/[/url]

[url]Wanless bearnol.is-a-geek.com/wanless2/[/url]

[url]Ithena root.ithena.net/usr/[/url]

[url]Ibercivis boinc.ibercivis.es/ibercivis/[/url]

[url]Minecraft https://minecraftathome.com/minecrafthome/[/url]

The Project WUProp has a thread showing the changes in the different Projects as they add or subtract apps.

Both WUProp and Ithena are NCI Projects so only use 0.25% of a cpu core when running.

Several Projects don't show up on the list of Projects in the Boinc Manager,

Why not? How do they expect to get people using them if they don't advertise?

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I've never seen Ralph appear on the list of projects to add to my phones (Android 4.5 and 7). But then I've only had them 6 months.

You can insert manually the project's url...

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Why not? How do they expect to get people using them if they don't advertise?

There are a lot of reasons: the list is update with the release of client (in android the release is not so frequent), projects don't warn boinc developer of their android client, etc

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You can insert manually the project's url...

Yes, but if I don't know about the project, I won't know to do that. When I want to run Boinc, I look at the list of projects and pick my favourite one.

There are a lot of reasons: the list is update with the release of client (in android the release is not so frequent), projects don't warn boinc developer of their android client, etc

Actually I was referring to this list: https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php - Ralph isn't on there either, so nobody will know about it unless they've seen it mentioned in the Rosetta forums. Surely a new project should inform all the lists, so they will get lots of volunteers!

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There are reasons for why some projects aren't listed.

TN-Grid (also did COVID-19 research) for example, doesn't want to be listed because their server would not handle the load.
As for Ralph,I believe that the official BOINC project list isn't supposed to include Alpha or Beta projects, including test projects.

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There are reasons for why some projects aren't listed.

TN-Grid (also did COVID-19 research) for example, doesn't want to be listed because their server would not handle the load.
As for Ralph,I believe that the official BOINC project list isn't supposed to include Alpha or Beta projects, including test projects.

I used to see Seti Beta somewhere, I can't remember if it was on the webpage listing them, or within Boinc.

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There are reasons for why some projects aren't listed.

TN-Grid (also did COVID-19 research) for example, doesn't want to be listed because their server would not handle the load.
As for Ralph,I believe that the official BOINC project list isn't supposed to include Alpha or Beta projects, including test projects.

Where can I find the test versions of other projects? Are they listed somewhere?

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https://www.boincstats.com/

BOINCStats has lots of projects including test projects. I don't think there are that many. SETI is gone so that leaves Ralph for Rosetta and Albert@home for Einstein@home.
I don't really recall any others right now. Maybe some of the math projects have test projects too but those projects are really not my focus.

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https://www.boincstats.com/

BOINCStats has lots of projects including test projects. I don't think there are that many. SETI is gone so that leaves Ralph for Rosetta and Albert@home for Einstein@home.
I don't really recall any others right now. Maybe some of the math projects have test projects too but those projects are really not my focus.

Oh I do like the warning on Albert at home: "Warning! This is the test project! Anything may break!" Mind you, Einstein also warns you if you tell it to run two tasks at once on a graphics card, as though it could burn it out or something. That simply does not happen.

I can't see anywhere on Boincstats that lists the test projects seperately, so I can't really tell if there are tests for the ones I use (Universe, Milkyway, Einstein, Rosetta, LHC).

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Actually I was referring to this list: https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php - Ralph isn't on there either, so nobody will know about it unless they've seen it mentioned in the Rosetta forums.

From Rosetta home page: "Join Ralph@home to help improve this project."

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