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Message 10824 - Posted: 16 Feb 2006, 22:01:45 UTC
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i cannot alpha test a project that will not even let me attach to it or sign up to the website ????

see this topic ........which i can't even reply to ???

http://ralph.bakerlab.org/forum_thread.php?id=16

every time i try to attach it says my account email addy or password is incorrect and i get account not found ???

i beta tested FaD software over a network on a regular basis for 3 years.........i could alpha test for you .....but you have to let me attach first.
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Message 10828 - Posted: 16 Feb 2006, 23:15:14 UTC - in response to Message 10824.  
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i cannot alpha test a project that will not even let me attach to it or sign up to the website ????

see this topic ........which i can't even reply to ???

http://ralph.bakerlab.org/forum_thread.php?id=16

every time i try to attach it says my account email addy or password is incorrect and i get account not found ???

i beta tested FaD software over a network on a regular basis for 3 years.........i could alpha test for you .....but you have to let me attach first.


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Message 10830 - Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 2:01:07 UTC

Different BOINC URL = Different PROJECT

You need to sign-up from scratch, as if it were just one more project (SETI etc).

Btw, I'm still unclear about the RESOURCE SHARE that we Rosetta users should give to RALPH:

Will RALPH be giving out regular R@H WUs with only difference being the science app version? (if so, I'll set R@H to "No new work" and give its share to RALPH)

Or will RALPH send out "test" WUs, in which case I'd set it to lower % resource share and keep R@H running as well?
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Message 10835 - Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 3:45:35 UTC

But telling people NOT to setup an account on the new project, and to instead just use the latest Boinc client and let IT setup the new account gives the impression that the project staff want people to use the latest Boinc client to do the setup for them.

Technically it is correct. As is the case with all BOINC projects you must create and ID and then attach. What they are trying to do is get people to use the new method, where the BOINC client will perform both functions. When you enter the e-mail and password in the BOINC client, if the ID does not exist it will create it and attach the computer. If the ID does exist it will simply attach the the existing ID. I would agree the wording may be confusing to some, but the idea is to get people to use the BOINC client attachment system.


Penalize those that actually read the documentation. :)
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Message 10836 - Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 5:26:36 UTC - in response to Message 10830.  

Different BOINC URL = Different PROJECT

You need to sign-up from scratch, as if it were just one more project (SETI etc).

Btw, I'm still unclear about the RESOURCE SHARE that we Rosetta users should give to RALPH:

Will RALPH be giving out regular R@H WUs with only difference being the science app version? (if so, I'll set R@H to "No new work" and give its share to RALPH)

Or will RALPH send out "test" WUs, in which case I'd set it to lower % resource share and keep R@H running as well?



yes, RA:PH will just be sending out "test" WU's, so your last suggestion is right on. with RALP
H we can be sure that all WU and new code versions run fine before sending them out to the community at large.

so far, it appears that the new code solves many of the problems we have been having. see the ralph message boards for details.

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Message 10843 - Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 8:11:49 UTC - in response to Message 10835.  
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But telling people NOT to setup an account on the new project, and to instead just use the latest Boinc client and let IT setup the new account gives the impression that the project staff want people to use the latest Boinc client to do the setup for them.

Technically it is correct. As is the case with all BOINC projects you must create and ID and then attach. What they are trying to do is get people to use the new method, where the BOINC client will perform both functions. When you enter the e-mail and password in the BOINC client, if the ID does not exist it will create it and attach the computer. If the ID does exist it will simply attach the the existing ID. I would agree the wording may be confusing to some, but the idea is to get people to use the BOINC client attachment system.


Penalize those that actually read the documentation. :)


They are not telling anyone to use the latest BOINC software if you read what it says when you go to the sign up page it says
NOTE: If you use BOINC version 5.2+ with the BOINC Manager, don't use this form. Just run BOINC, select Attach Project, and enter an email address and password.


if not you sign up the old fashion way
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Message 10993 - Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 10:33:29 UTC - in response to Message 10843.  

But telling people NOT to setup an account on the new project, and to instead just use the latest Boinc client and let IT setup the new account gives the impression that the project staff want people to use the latest Boinc client to do the setup for them.

Technically it is correct. As is the case with all BOINC projects you must create and ID and then attach. What they are trying to do is get people to use the new method, where the BOINC client will perform both functions. When you enter the e-mail and password in the BOINC client, if the ID does not exist it will create it and attach the computer. If the ID does exist it will simply attach the the existing ID. I would agree the wording may be confusing to some, but the idea is to get people to use the BOINC client attachment system.


Penalize those that actually read the documentation. :)


They are not telling anyone to use the latest BOINC software if you read what it says when you go to the sign up page it says
NOTE: If you use BOINC version 5.2+ with the BOINC Manager, don't use this form. Just run BOINC, select Attach Project, and enter an email address and password.


if not you sign up the old fashion way


All though they are recommending to sign up that way :)
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where the latest version and recommended version (for the platforms rosetta/ralph support) is 5.2.13 ;-)
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Message 11042 - Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 22:07:25 UTC
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This entire threaad is off topic as a Rosetta Science issue. The answer to the original question is the topic of a discussion in the RALPH forums. Unless One of the project team wants to keep this thread here, I will be removing it as off topic. in about 6 hours

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Message 11043 - Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 22:09:29 UTC - in response to Message 11042.  



This entire threaad is off topic as a Rosetta Science issue. The answer to the original question is the topic of a discussion in the RALPH forums. Unless One of the project team wants to keep this thread here, I will be removing it as off topic. in about 6 hours


Shift it to the Q&A Board out of the way

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Message 11044 - Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 22:13:25 UTC - in response to Message 11043.  
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This entire threaad is off topic as a Rosetta Science issue. The answer to the original question is the topic of a discussion in the RALPH forums. Unless One of the project team wants to keep this thread here, I will be removing it as off topic. in about 6 hours


Shift it to the Q&A Board out of the way


Well I would but nobody ever goes there. I don't want to censor the topic just put it where it belongs. See the link in my last post. The server will not let me move it across the project boundary. How about the Cafe?

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Message 11054 - Posted: 20 Feb 2006, 23:50:18 UTC
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