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Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2059 Credit: 40,463,815 RAC: 3,545 ![]() |
Some more work would be nice. Your post made me look for the first time exactly where Darwin is and, after checking on a weather site, discover your winter is still 2-4C higher than this English summer. My sympathies are therefore quite limited, as well as thinking it's a rather inefficient way to heat the house. While I understand and accept your reasoning for keeping a tight cache, I can only repeat my advice to change from setting a default runtime at Rosetta, which turns out to be only 3hrs, to making it explicitly 8hrs to match what Boinc thinks it is (at the point of download anyway). Not only would you get an extra 5hrs work, you would reduce your churn through tasks by almost two-thirds, marginally extending how long each batch of tasks will last, which is valuable when we see each batch run out before further tasks become available. To emphasise the difference between me and you, I keep a 0.5 plus 0.1 cache and set a 12hr runtime. So when I have 4-5hrs of tasks remaining, I already have 16 tasks (8C16T) cued up and another 16 can come down, which works out at 28-29hrs of work when Rosetta runs out. At an 8hr runtime, this would still be 20-21hrs. As compared to your maximum of 3hrs work while trying to gobble up tasks only at the last minute. The difference is huge for one host and, the more people who make the runtime change I suggest, the longer batches of tasks would last and the shorterfewer periods without any on the whole site. This is why I keep repeating myself. Everyone should do both yourselves and everyone else a favour imo, ![]() ![]() |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2059 Credit: 40,463,815 RAC: 3,545 ![]() |
Still... 'completed awaiting validation'... All credits do get caught up once the server is restarted. No time or energy lost. Just a hiccup in when they get awarded which might take a day or two at most (but might also be just a few hours) ![]() ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1958 Credit: 9,099,368 RAC: 1,192 ![]() |
Just a hiccup in when they get awarded which might take a day or two at most (but might also be just a few hours) Well, not so few hours... |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2059 Credit: 40,463,815 RAC: 3,545 ![]() |
Just a hiccup in when they get awarded which might take a day or two at most (but might also be just a few hours) I looked earlier today. I think it came back about 10hrs after your post, so between 1 & 2 days. I think I saw the whole site go down (again) a few hours before too. Everything seems so fragile. No new tasks yet, but I've picked up a few resends through the day ![]() ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 16 Jul 07 Posts: 18 Credit: 13,259,449 RAC: 8,417 ![]() |
Try putting another shrimp on the barbie. |
Tom M Send message Joined: 20 Jun 17 Posts: 86 Credit: 11,371,370 RAC: 30,047 ![]() |
Try putting another shrimp on the barbie. And wined the Ken up? Help, my tagline is missing..... Help, my tagline is......... Help, m........ Hel..... |
![]() Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1610 Credit: 16,513,220 RAC: 5,922 ![]() |
I wonder if they've got data centre issues? Server Status page shows, well, next to nothing (although Ralph still shows everything's ok). Grant Darwin NT |
![]() Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1958 Credit: 9,099,368 RAC: 1,192 ![]() |
I wonder if they've got data centre issues? Well, it's summer The servers went on vacation |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2059 Credit: 40,463,815 RAC: 3,545 ![]() |
'Project down for maintenance' messages being issued for over 24hrs While all tasks are pretty much completed this sounds like the best time Servers being randomly up and down over a considerable period, it does need a thorough going over Let's hope they find and resolve everything... ...and have a whole bunch of tasks waiting for us on completion I can dream ![]() ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1958 Credit: 9,099,368 RAC: 1,192 ![]() |
Servers being randomly up and down over a considerable period, it does need a thorough going over As i said in another thread, i don't know if the servers are the ones described in server status page, (maybe the page is not updated). But, if it was true, their sw are VERY old and no longer supported (File system: ZFS on Linux v0.7, OS: Ubuntu Server 16.04) The latest version of Ubuntu Server is 24.04 LTS and ZFS is 2.2.4 (now OpenZFS) I know, i know.....the update/upgrade of the servers are not easy and without worries, but maybe it's the time....[/i] |
![]() Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1958 Credit: 9,099,368 RAC: 1,192 ![]() |
See you in September... |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2059 Credit: 40,463,815 RAC: 3,545 ![]() |
Servers being randomly up and down over a considerable period, it does need a thorough going over I remember when they updated those servers after previous problems. so I'm inclined to think the information remains accurate... ![]() ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1610 Credit: 16,513,220 RAC: 5,922 ![]() |
The lights are on, but is anybody home? It's been 3 weeks, and still no updated application over at Ralph. And here all but a couple of servers have been MIA for over a week. Grant Darwin NT |
![]() Send message Joined: 29 Jan 24 Posts: 4 Credit: 274,543 RAC: 585 ![]() |
On the plus-side, it's summer here, so less compute-Watts results in less cooling costs. ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1958 Credit: 9,099,368 RAC: 1,192 ![]() |
I remember when they updated those servers after previous problems... How many years ago?? :-P |
kotenok2000 Send message Joined: 22 Feb 11 Posts: 255 Credit: 458,679 RAC: 751 ![]() |
I have found another issue. When i open news board and switch to page 2 it becomes empty https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_forum.php?id=202&sort=5&start=50 |
mikey![]() Send message Joined: 5 Jan 06 Posts: 1895 Credit: 8,893,974 RAC: 711 ![]() |
The problem is all the tweaks that most projects put in often get moved around in the newer versions so the notes people left are often pretty useless without a lot of hunting and pecking to find where things are now. And then apparently some things are in multiple places so if you don't change them ALL things don't work like you want them too, In short it's far from smooth especially when some projects run thru Admins like water so putting it off until you can't wait any longer is often better than tackling it little by little over the next 6 months or more. |
Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2059 Credit: 40,463,815 RAC: 3,545 ![]() |
I remember when they updated those servers after previous problems... You set me off to look. I think it was somewhere around June 2017 Does that match those software versions? ![]() ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 1 Dec 05 Posts: 1958 Credit: 9,099,368 RAC: 1,192 ![]() |
The problem is all the tweaks that most projects put in often get moved around in the newer versions so the notes people left are often pretty useless without a lot of hunting and pecking to find where things are now. And then apparently some things are in multiple places so if you don't change them ALL things don't work like you want them too The project has continuously problems. We are willing to bear the problems of a migration/upgrade. (they have also a beta project - Ralph - to try) |
![]() Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1610 Credit: 16,513,220 RAC: 5,922 ![]() |
Roughly.I remember when they updated those servers after previous problems... Ubuntu Server 16.04 was released on 21 April 2016. Grant Darwin NT |
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